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Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton
Produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones
Edited by Jen Poyant
Engineered by Daniel Ramirez
Original music by Dan PowellElisheba IttoopMarion Lozano and Rowan Niemisto
This week, Casey reports back from a wild day at Meta Connect, discussing what’s new with Meta’s efforts in artificial intelligence, virtual reality headsets and the Holy Grail — augmented reality glasses. Then, Steven Johnson, a writer and editorial director at Google Labs, stops by to talk about the company’s new hit NotebookLM, which uses A.I. to turn even boring PDFs, such as user manuals and Kevin’s bank records, into chatty, disturbingly good podcasts. Finally, so much happened in tech news this week that we reached for the bucket çizgi in the latest installment of HatGPT!
Guest:
Steven Johnson,author and editorial director, NotebookLM
Additional Reading:
Meta Unveils New Smart Glasses and Headsets in Pursuit of the Metaverse
A.I. Is Mastering Language. Should We Trust What It Says?
OpenAI Executives Exit as C.E.O. Works to Make the Company For-Profit
Credit…Photo Illustration by The New York Times; Photo: Andrej Sokolow/Picture Alliance, via Getty Images
Credits
“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. The show is edited by Jen Poyant. Engineering by Daniel Ramirez and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop, Marion Lozano and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.
Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Dahlia Haddad and Jeffrey Miranda.